tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post8210345165829176437..comments2024-03-28T00:08:13.399-07:00Comments on Taliesin meets the vampires: Will the real Count Dracula please stand up?Taliesin_ttlghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10105263634442191232noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-6466096529815839492015-01-23T15:14:32.283-08:002015-01-23T15:14:32.283-08:00Just to add to that, there is no evidence that I a...Just to add to that, there is no evidence that I am aware of, which suggested that Vlad III was a vampire during his lifetime or afterwards in his home nations.<br /><br />The most quoted modern evidence is his dipping bread in blood - this has been shown to be a mistranslation <br /><br />Two seperate German scholars translated independently the poem oft quoted as dipping his bread in blood and found that it actually said washing his hands in blood <br /><br />Taliesin_ttlghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10105263634442191232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-25902442391150786262015-01-23T15:07:29.834-08:002015-01-23T15:07:29.834-08:00Whisperindave, I agree with you re the meaning of ...Whisperindave, I agree with you re the meaning of Dracula - it certainly did mean son of the dragon - which is entirely not the point.<br /><br />Stoker only knew of Prince Vlad through Wilkinson and Wilkinson states that Dracula meant devil. <br /><br />We know Stoker read this, indeed his notes write the footnote out in full that states it and he capitalises and underlines devil. <br /><br />There is no evidence that Stoker knew anything else about Prince Vlad and no evidence that he knew of the correct translation of Dracul as dragon and the a meaning son of.<br /><br />What we san't do is project the correct meaning onto Stoker's understanding (as we cannot say he knew the correct meaning) and as such we need to use the meaning we know Stoker understood and see how that fits in with the further evidence from his novel and notes.Taliesin_ttlghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10105263634442191232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-32067495131573621422015-01-23T14:38:38.221-08:002015-01-23T14:38:38.221-08:00Nice article, but I disagree whole heartedly. In W...Nice article, but I disagree whole heartedly. In Wallachia the devil is called "Ordogh." Dracul means Dragon. And the Order of the Dragon was a noble, Catholic knighthood which was born by many men, including Draculya's father Dracul. In no sense would he have been known by the name "Devil" by his people. In Serbian and Balkan myths the dragon was a protector and rain/fertility bringer. In ancient times it was portrayed as a serpent (python) with a wolf's head. The Dacians (Wallachians) were once called the Wolf People. The serpent/dragon was well known to them, since the Romans used this standard as a battle emblem. The Dacians combined the Roman dragon with the wolf. Like the Norse the Dacians thought the dragon was a home protector, not a devil. Draculya is the diminutive of Dracul. Dracul's son Mircea was not called Draculya. His son Vlad III was called that and signed his name as such. His other brother Radu (not Bladus) was called "Radu the Handsome." He was a Turkish captain...not a voivode, until much later. Draculya was written about in several printed tracts. He stopped the Turks in their tracks at Tirgoviste by impaling several thousand Turkish soldiers. He also reconquered the Balkans from Mehemmed the Conqueror. He was noted by the famous people of his time and truly was the only "infamous" Draculya we know of. He was also called a Living Vampire. It is well known that such people become vampires after they die. In my estimation Vlad Tepes Draculya is the number one candidate for Stoker's Draculya.Whisperindavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09524246234554271330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-80747972874355055192014-08-19T23:14:38.445-07:002014-08-19T23:14:38.445-07:00its an interesting article Jared, thanks for shari...its an interesting article Jared, thanks for sharing<br />Taliesin_ttlghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10105263634442191232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-80388514815773578742014-08-19T19:29:18.660-07:002014-08-19T19:29:18.660-07:00I link to this in my new Dracula post on my new Fo...I link to this in my new Dracula post on my new Forum.<br />http://libertarianbiblenerd.blogspot.com/2014/08/i-think-dracula-has-overlooked.htmlKuudere-Kunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06537085979461349854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-91570975320083477072013-12-08T23:08:44.785-08:002013-12-08T23:08:44.785-08:00Thanks Scott :)Thanks Scott :)Taliesin_ttlghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10105263634442191232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-74343607383586922922013-12-08T17:39:10.302-08:002013-12-08T17:39:10.302-08:00Well, all I have to say is...well done. I have Pr...Well, all I have to say is...well done. I have Professor Miller's book but you were able to put everything succinctly into a short piece. Excellent post!!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09184687411249257031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-50687514126371765312013-11-29T13:35:49.005-08:002013-11-29T13:35:49.005-08:00no worries :)no worries :)Taliesin_ttlghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10105263634442191232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-69871530374719816132013-11-29T10:55:45.827-08:002013-11-29T10:55:45.827-08:00One could go with the frame up and still include a...One could go with the frame up and still include a Vampire. She is destroyed by society, but once imprisoned in her castle, a Vampire offers her a new immortal life of revenge.<br /><br />I love engaging in the genre of Secret History. Much more fun to me then the easier Alternate history.<br /><br />That film looks interesting, thanks.Kuudere-Kunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06537085979461349854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-2148176348117835852013-11-29T08:47:23.994-08:002013-11-29T08:47:23.994-08:00Hi Jared - sorry, I should have made comment on th...Hi Jared - sorry, I should have made comment on that - I apologise for not doing its been a hectic work week.<br /><br />You say in the analysis - By no means do I think this was intentional on Stoker's part - and I agree with that certainly and there is precious little evidence that Stoker knew of Bathory (though I believe one of his reference works does include mention of her... I'd have to dig to tell you which one. <br /><br />Generally I think the Bathory/vampire connection is pretty much modern in origin but the actual connections you make are excellent from a writers point of view I could see a wonderful history weaved.<br /><br />I'm also interested in the "it was a frame job" theorem of Bathory, but ultimately I'm a sucker for the blood countess stories and these fit in with vampirism so well. McNally did write a book - Dracula was a woman - but I have to admit I don't have it.<br /><br />Re an Asian Dracula look to <a href="http://taliesinttlg.blogspot.co.uk/2008/08/dracula-pages-from-virgins-diary-review.html" rel="nofollow">Dracula: Pages from a Virgin's Diary</a>Taliesin_ttlghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10105263634442191232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-9842498822998940582013-11-29T08:30:38.835-08:002013-11-29T08:30:38.835-08:00That top picture reminds me again that I'd lik...That top picture reminds me again that I'd like to see an Asian or Eurasian actor play Dracula for a change.<br /><br />What did you think of the Bathory analysis I linked to?Kuudere-Kunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06537085979461349854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-13145262273623080922013-11-28T03:49:15.586-08:002013-11-28T03:49:15.586-08:00Should have been spelt Ladislas. I'd forgotte...Should have been spelt Ladislas. I'd forgotten why I considered him significant, it's because he married a Hungarian Noblewoman who owned land in Transylvania.<br /><br />Allot of British actors have descent from Royalty, Edmund from the Narnia films is a descendent of Darwin, who's a descendent of Mary Bolyen.Kuudere-Kunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06537085979461349854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-77038071955597081472013-11-27T14:21:07.275-08:002013-11-27T14:21:07.275-08:00I am aware of the Vlad - UK royal family line but ...I am aware of the Vlad - UK royal family line but also aware that that line also (allegedly) leads to Robert Pattinson... eekTaliesin_ttlghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10105263634442191232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-39338345497380970442013-11-27T13:37:03.274-08:002013-11-27T13:37:03.274-08:00Thank you
An alternative to the Bathory rout, (or...Thank you<br /><br />An alternative to the Bathory rout, (or perhaps cold be merged with it) since as you noted the Dracula references could be interpreted as to his Ancestor. When you trace the rout by which Prince Charles is a descendent of Vlad Tepes it goes through some Transylvanian nobility. And Vlad Tepes has a grandson or great grandson named Lasidius Dracula.Kuudere-Kunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06537085979461349854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-91105173446087054752013-11-27T13:03:31.260-08:002013-11-27T13:03:31.260-08:00Jared, I like the way you have put that - identify...Jared, I like the way you have put that - identifying rather than basing.Taliesin_ttlghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10105263634442191232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-74380437046438963422013-11-27T12:10:39.733-08:002013-11-27T12:10:39.733-08:00In my own fictional mythology I place my writings ...In my own fictional mythology I place my writings in, Stoker's Novel was base don a Real Vampire, but he wasn't as faithful to his source material as Le Fanu or Paul Feval, or even Varney's garbled narrative.<br /><br />It is a fact that the name Dracula was itself only added at the last minute, and I've written a post on my Forum about how I feel the information about him established before the Dracula confusion makes the Bathory family the likely candidate.<br />http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_Shadowmen_Lounge/index.php?showtopic=4&view=findpost&p=22352340<br /><br />There are allot of Vlad is Dracula obsessed people I meet on IMDB who cannot accept that identifying a fictional character with a historical one is not the same as basing him on one.Kuudere-Kunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06537085979461349854noreply@blogger.com