tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post5713857784866473221..comments2024-03-07T23:09:10.207-08:00Comments on Taliesin meets the vampires: Classic Literature: Varney the VampireTaliesin_ttlghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10105263634442191232noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-33237639734030122702022-11-15T12:03:43.605-08:002022-11-15T12:03:43.605-08:00So, if you have Varney in 3 volumes it is in Volum...So, if you have Varney in 3 volumes it is in Volume 3. The first chapter (Varney being pulled from the sea by her brothers) is Chapter CLXXX. The Old Manor House. −− The Rescue. −− Varney's Despair.<br /><br />As I said in the article, I think there are similes with Lucy (and therefore Dracula) when she is turned but I'd be interested in hearing parallels you draw with Carmilla Taliesin_ttlghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10105263634442191232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-59141987673937540852022-11-15T05:03:17.240-08:002022-11-15T05:03:17.240-08:00I would love to read the Clara Crofton chapter(s)....I would love to read the Clara Crofton chapter(s). Please could you advise which these are and where I might find them? I do intend to read the whole saga someday, but for now, I would love to read Clara's story to see what influence she might have had on Sheridan Le Fanu when writing Carmilla.Carmillahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04576656220354560268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-59909156176286084632015-04-27T22:59:25.122-07:002015-04-27T22:59:25.122-07:00cheers for that Fenris :)cheers for that Fenris :)Taliesin_ttlghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10105263634442191232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-91077782065531364142015-04-27T17:07:50.815-07:002015-04-27T17:07:50.815-07:00Have recently discovered that Varney appears in Me...Have recently discovered that Varney appears in <i>Merriwether: God's Demon-Thumper</i>, a graphic novel about a demon-hunting vicar produced by independent British publisher Black Tower Comics.<br /><br /><i>God's Demon-Thumper</i> and it's sequel <i>Merriwether: The Test of Satan</i> are exclusively available from Black Tower Comics' on-line shop both separately and also compiled together as <i>The Collected Merriwether</i>;<br /> <br />http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/hoopercomicsukfenrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05612110451975641628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-89284214858204631102014-06-11T09:56:26.407-07:002014-06-11T09:56:26.407-07:00The Zittaw Press edition does sound highly desirab...The Zittaw Press edition does sound highly desirable, but as you say Taliesin, some of us do live on a budget. Thanks to the Wordsworth edition, I now own and can enjoy a classic vampire tale that previously I couldn't have afforded. <br />fenrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05612110451975641628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-79153642300310366082014-06-08T10:37:35.546-07:002014-06-08T10:37:35.546-07:00Indeed mine does sit next to the New Annotated Dra...Indeed mine does sit next to the New Annotated Dracula. I would still recommend the version mentioned in the article but nice to know that folks ona budget cab also get itTaliesin_ttlghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10105263634442191232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-31052910688375965822014-06-08T09:17:17.191-07:002014-06-08T09:17:17.191-07:00Wordsworth Editions have published a complete &...Wordsworth Editions have published a complete & unabridged version of <i>Varney, the Vampyre</i> as a single paperback that is much, <b>much</b> cheaper than any edition previously available. So now there's no excuse for not owning this flawed but essential epic, which (in my humble opinion) should proudly sit upon every vampire fan's bookshelf alongside their copy of <i>Dracula</i>.fenrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05612110451975641628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-65518303577292083892013-11-04T13:22:26.060-08:002013-11-04T13:22:26.060-08:00Thanks Jared. Note that it is at "probably a ...Thanks Jared. Note that it is at "probably a hoax" - but the health check is there.<br /><br />Unfortunately my blog post on the story itself is a guest blog hosted on another blog, so I have left a comment with the link you provided.Taliesin_ttlghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10105263634442191232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-50268082361620625892013-11-04T12:51:37.565-08:002013-11-04T12:51:37.565-08:00http://john-adcock.blogspot.com/2010/06/elizabeth-...http://john-adcock.blogspot.com/2010/06/elizabeth-caroline-grey.html<br /><br />It's a shame cause the story is a good read.Kuudere-Kunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06537085979461349854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-63842369483922426792013-11-04T12:40:35.351-08:002013-11-04T12:40:35.351-08:00Jared
I'd like to see the evidence of the hoa...Jared<br /><br />I'd like to see the evidence of the hoax if you have it - not that I disbelieve (or otherwise).<br /><br />Re the chapter titles, to be fair I'm not about to delve back in (at least not tonight) but at at least one chapter of Varney was a faux penny dreadul about vampires.Taliesin_ttlghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10105263634442191232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-54552740941288876172013-11-03T21:55:19.860-08:002013-11-03T21:55:19.860-08:00It turns out from further investigation that "...It turns out from further investigation that "The Skeleton Count and the Vampire mistress" is a Hoax, it was made up by the Author of the Ominbus, it's real existence isn't any more valid then Joseph Smith's Golden Tablets.<br /><br />Going over the Chapter Titles I notice reference to a "Hungarian Nobleman". And Admiral Bell tells a story about "The Beautiful Belinda". I wonder if those are Vampires.Kuudere-Kunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06537085979461349854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-9032954427703410382013-02-17T23:22:34.579-08:002013-02-17T23:22:34.579-08:00Hi
With regards Varney's implied sire, given ...Hi<br /><br />With regards Varney's implied sire, given the nature of the saga he may or may not be, the story changes so often.<br /><br />Whether there is a name or an ethnic background I can't remember. I suspect that no name is given and I suspect the ethnicity is not addressed - however without trawling through the saga I can't say.<br /><br />There are a few vampires through the saga – we meet several raising another vampire for instance (a scene which is referenced in the comments), but few are in detail. Again – without trawling through the saga it would be impossible for me to tell you exactly how many.<br /><br />Count Pollidori was a human character, the father of a young woman who is saved by a stranger (Varney) who then offers his daughter in marriage as thanks.<br /><br />If you wanted to imagine Ruthven in this universe I am sure you could but I don’t think there was a character designed to be Ruthven.<br />Taliesin_ttlghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10105263634442191232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-77093232333605787052013-02-17T15:20:25.841-08:002013-02-17T15:20:25.841-08:00You said there we meet a Vampire implied to possib...You said there we meet a Vampire implied to possibly be Varney's Sire? Does he/she have a name? or an implied ethnic background?<br /><br />How many other Vampires show up in the saga? Is this "Count Pollidori" a Vampire? <br /><br />Since the rules in Varney are largely modeled after Lord Ruthven, I'm wondering if there is a mysterious character I can imagine to be Lord Ruthven. It'd suit my interest in Wold newton Universe pretty well.Kuudere-Kunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06537085979461349854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-86770605213625885722012-10-30T02:51:59.922-07:002012-10-30T02:51:59.922-07:00Hi unknown... werewolves are mentioned, in respect...Hi unknown... werewolves are mentioned, in respect of Varney, by Herr in that lupine traits are attached to Varney - though he never transforms/shapeshifts.<br /><br />Perkowski argues that the Serbo-Croatian "vukodlak" never meant werewolf in an English sense but vokodalak (another form of the word) does translate to wolf-pelt and the 1862 tome Der Werwolf describes the buried werewolf as rising revenant like and perhaps even drinking blood.<br /><br />I am afraid that I am not aware of a werewolf blog that has gone into this in depth. I cover this briefly in my book "the Media Vampire" pp267-272 (also touching the subject when mentioning the film Isle of the Dead and in the chapter on Varney). The book is available from <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1471764281/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1471764281&linkCode=as2&tag=talimeettheva-20" rel="nofollow">Amazon US</a>, <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1471764281/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1634&creative=19450&creativeASIN=1471764281&linkCode=as2&tag=talimeettheva-21" rel="nofollow">Amazon UK</a><br /> and <a href="http://www.lulu.com/shop/andrew-m-boylan/the-media-vampire/hardcover/product-20229974.html" rel="nofollow">Lulu</a> (sorry for the blatant product placement.)<br />Taliesin_ttlghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10105263634442191232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-50863114550309058312012-10-29T16:31:46.158-07:002012-10-29T16:31:46.158-07:00I've read that other Supernatural creatures ap...I've read that other Supernatural creatures appear in Varney too, including Werewolves. it's not really what your blog is abut, but I am curious how the rules for Werewolfism work in Varney. Is there a a good Werewolve blog that has discussed it?Kuudere-Kunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06537085979461349854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-7237559573907646342012-10-23T23:28:32.166-07:002012-10-23T23:28:32.166-07:00I see your point.
I think my position isn't ...I see your point. <br /><br />I think my position isn't that the reader won't find it erotic (or indeed that there wasn't an erotic element for the perpetrator) but, much more so, that the attacks on women and children were for ease, as a first consideration...<br /><br />I hope that makes sense, it is rather early in the morning as I type that and the double negatives were swaying before me!!<br />Taliesin_ttlghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10105263634442191232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-9183662956854300122012-10-23T15:27:50.202-07:002012-10-23T15:27:50.202-07:00I would disagree with the attack not being Eortic,...I would disagree with the attack not being Eortic, I found ti pretty erotic. I discus the story on my Tumblr.<br />http://jaredmithrandir.tumblr.com/post/27389186399/the-skeleton-count-and-the-vampire-mistressKuudere-Kunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06537085979461349854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-71281901869609038162012-10-23T13:20:56.993-07:002012-10-23T13:20:56.993-07:00I have that volume :) I actually looked at the ske...I have that volume :) I actually looked at the skeleton vampire etc as a guest blog <a href="http://doubletoilandtrouble.blogspot.com/2010/04/guest-blogger-taliesin-from-taliesin.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>Taliesin_ttlghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10105263634442191232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-67807017071129333162012-10-23T10:30:03.117-07:002012-10-23T10:30:03.117-07:00You should order The Vampire Omnibus, an anthology...You should order The Vampire Omnibus, an anthology book by Peter Hanning. It contains some pretty rare old Vampire stories, most interesting to me was "The Skeleton Count and The Vampire Mistress" it was also published as a Penny Dreadful about 20 years before Varney.Kuudere-Kunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06537085979461349854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-81645574590619622372012-07-12T23:27:51.810-07:002012-07-12T23:27:51.810-07:00It would be... perhaps I'd have some backstory...It would be... perhaps I'd have some backstory around Clara being revived some decades before... giving her opportunity to get used to her vampire powers and then reading about an eruption and realising that Varney may be revived....<br /><br />ideas abound (the eruption would have to be the opening chapter though).Taliesin_ttlghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10105263634442191232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-89842630250807106022012-07-12T21:50:45.500-07:002012-07-12T21:50:45.500-07:00Thanks. I think it's be cool to write a Moder...Thanks. I think it's be cool to write a Modern set Sequel where Varney and Clara both get revived. Varney returning would require a Volcanic Eruption though, talk about an epic opening.Kuudere-Kunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06537085979461349854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-68417404198342492332012-07-08T01:06:11.396-07:002012-07-08T01:06:11.396-07:00Unknown, I put a description of Clara in the text ...Unknown, I put a description of Clara in the text above. She ended up laid to peace... <br /><br />A mob took her coffin and body, intent on burning it. However there was torrential rain and so they decided to bury her at a crossroads (there was also talk of staking her). When she opens her eyes, at the bottom of the crossroads grave) the mob run in fear.<br /><br />It is actually Varney - now remorseful over the fact that he turned her - who finishes the job...<br /><br />However, in the Varney mythology, should she be dug up and exposed to rays of moonlight...Taliesin_ttlghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10105263634442191232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-44884704371463332382012-07-07T20:42:18.224-07:002012-07-07T20:42:18.224-07:00How is Clara described? Is she still on the loose...How is Clara described? Is she still on the loose when the story ends?Kuudere-Kunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06537085979461349854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-80872462510286000942010-02-19T05:17:14.595-08:002010-02-19T05:17:14.595-08:00NR, I agree. There is no way I could have read the...NR, I agree. There is no way I could have read the entire thing without the elements you describe.<br /><br />There are some repetative moments, especially in the first saga, but the last 1/3 of the entire thing is absolutely wonderful stuff.<br /><br />Hope you enjoy it all - Varney deserves more exposure to the public generally, perhaps in the form of a TV serial... but I might wish for it, however it'll probably never happen.Taliesin_ttlghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10105263634442191232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23449634.post-85711816141744445962010-02-19T04:08:00.027-08:002010-02-19T04:08:00.027-08:00It may have been the junk literature of it's t...It may have been the junk literature of it's time, but right now I am finding it a totally thrilling and entertaining read.<br /><br />Some of the writing is wonderful - eg the descriptions of moonlit landscapes.<br /><br />Varney's escape across the rooftops scene is burned into my memory.<br /><br />You really do root for the Vampyre.<br />He is so much a modern individual, sensitive, strong, flawed, multidimensional.<br /><br />NRAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com